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>Julean A. Simon wrote:
><<Roy, would you please elaborate on how it can be useful, and useful in
><<which sense. In which way do you define the concept so that it can be mad=
><<e
><<operational and goes beyond its functioning as a metaphor.
><<regards, Julean Simon
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>julean
>it has something to do with how we 'handle' the meme. the net can be seen
>either
>as an extended container into which we lodge clusters of ideas (individul art
>works by individual authors), or it can be seen as a substrate into which memes
>get planted,or find their own way, then cultivated and allowed to grow,
>unpredictably in ways beyond our control or subject to some intervention, as we
>wish.
>
>The first keeps us firmly in the frame of past practice, while the latter
>allows
>us to share in the problems and potentials of artificial life
>
>Roy
hi, roy
did you intend to reply privately? mine was private, since i did not
realize, that the automatic reply-function did not address the list. so if
you aggree we should plant the debate into the list.
ok, a difference can be made in looking differently on a thing (container
for clusters of ideas). but, as you said last time, it makes sense only,
when the new way of looking alters/modifies/influences the practice in some
useful way. so there is a question first to be adressed, what we define as
useful (does it explain something, provide insight that can not be achieved
otherwise, is it efficent with respect to ..., etc.)
i still dont see (i read some of the memetic papers), in what respect we
can speak of a "new practice". i dont even know what you mean by past
practice. as far as i can see the (useful) developments in the domain of
artificial life are pursued more or less consistent to traditional
scientific research.
regards, julean
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