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Some Fragments of the Infowar Mailing List
As in the past two years, the preparations for this year’s Ars Electronica Symposium have included an accompanying network discussion. The aim inherent in such a forum is to create a discursive environment that, on one hand, endures beyond the symposium taking place on September 8-9 in Linz but which, on the other hand, also represents a challenge to a hierarchy of pre-established conclusions during the time leading up to these deliberations. The discussion can be followed in the web at – http://www.aec.at/infowar/netsymposium – as well as by signing up on a mailing list. Send contributions to infowar@aec.at.
The network discussion is prefaced by the opening statements of its three scholarly advisors, Friedrich Kittler, Georg Schöfbänker and Geert Lovink, who also serve as moderators.
These statements and representative quotes selected by Geert Lovink.
http://www.aec.at/infowar/NETSYMPOSIUM/ARCH-EN/threads.html#00099
Mail Thread Index:INFOWAR: Net-Symposium, infowar
INFOWAR: Opening Statement, Gerfried Stocker
INFOWAR: Info Weapon Contest, Geert Lovink
INFOWAR: Notes on the theory history, Friedrich Kittler
INFOWAR: From Cyberwar to INFOWAR, Georg Schoefbaenker
INFOWAR: introduction to infowar, Geert Lovink
INFOWAR: Digital Zapatismo, ricardo dominguez
INFOWAR: *Fish* Re: Info Weapon Contest, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer
INFOWAR: Re: ARS Electronica Festival 98, Jim Gasperini
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Re: INFOWAR: Re: ARS Electronica Festival 98, Matthew Ostrowski
INFOWAR: Re: Info Weapon Contest, =cw4t7abs
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INFOWAR: Re: Info Weapons; INTELLIGENCE ARMS RACE, Steve Mann
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Re: INFOWAR: Re: Info Weapons; INTELLIGENCE ARMS RACE, Adnan
Re: INFOWAR: Re: Info Weapons; INTELLIGENCE ARMS RACE, Adnan Ashraf
No Subject, speer
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No Subject, owner-infowar-en
No Subject, speer
No Subject, speer
No Subject, Vuk Cosic
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No Subject, Eveline Lubbers
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INFOWAR: What do Metropolis, 1984, and Infowar have in common?, Brian Leigh Molyneaux
INFOWAR: Notes on a personal theory history, Simon Biggs
INFOWAR: Re: What do Metropolis, Nick Wray
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Re: INFOWAR: Re: What do Metropolis, Simon Biggs
INFOWAR: Re: Infowar, Dinka Pignon
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INFOWAR: Re: Infowar, speer
Re: INFOWAR: Re: Infowar, =cw4t7abs
INFOWAR: Re: Infowar, =cw4t7abs
INFOWAR: Re: Infowar, Simon Biggs
INFOWAR: does INFOWAR make sense?, Steve Mann
INFOWAR: Info.War.101, MediaFilter
INFOWAR: Link Enemies, Ebon Fisher
INFOWAR: The Trouble with Tribbles, Brian Leigh Molyneaux
INFOWAR: Re: cultures in contention, Steve Mann
INFOWAR: Re: Notes on a personal theory history, Zina Kaye
INFOWAR: Re: does INFOWAR make sense?, J. R. Molloy
INFOWAR: the players, Allan Hunt-Badiner
INFOWAR: echelon espionage, Fabio Duarte
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Re: INFOWAR: echelon espionage, Matthew Ostrowski
INFOWAR: Re: echelon espionage, MediaFilter
INFOWAR: Re: Info.War.101, melinda rackham
INFOWAR: >>>MUTATING ETHICS<<<, Ebon Fisher
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INFOWAR: >>>MUTATING ETHICS<<<, Ebon Fisher
INFOWAR: Infopeace, Jordan, Chris
INFOWAR: Re: >>>MUTATING ETHICS<<<, Aymon De Sales
INFOWAR: what info wants, speer
INFOWAR: do we need an nth column!? (3 mails from josepha haveman),
JosephaH
INFOWAR: Re: Information wants to be free, infowar
INFOWAR: Re: INFOWAR = Change to InfoPeace, Kasper
INFOWAR: Re: what info wants (four responses), infowar
INFOWAR: Whose Infowar?, Douglas Rushkoff
INFOWAR: Anti War Campaign, Vesna Manojlovic
INFOWAR: Infowar = Change to InfoPeace, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Infowar: War on info, Andrew Garton
INFOWAR: Infowar seen by the Chinese, Ingrid Fischer-Schreiber
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Re: INFOWAR: Infowar seen by the Chinese, Georg Schoefbaenker
INFOWAR: War on info access, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Infowar and civil disobedience from inside, infowar
INFOWAR: Re: Whose Infowar?, Ramsey, Shafer
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Re: INFOWAR: Re: Whose Infowar?, Douglas Rushkoff
INFOWAR: Re: Whose Infowar?, pighed
Re: INFOWAR: civil disobedience from inside, JosephaH
INFOWAR: More on the AntiWar Campaign, Vesna Manojlovic
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Re: INFOWAR: More on the AntiWar Campaign, J. R. Molloy
RE: INFOWAR: More on the AntiWar Campaign, Kildsig
Re: INFOWAR: More on the AntiWar Campaign, =cw4t7abs
Re: Re: INFOWAR: More on the AntiWar Campaign, JosephaH
INFOWAR: INFO WAR = INFO NERVES ?, Emmanuelle Baron
INFOWAR: information is neutral, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Re: essential unit of human experience, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Infowar seen by the Chinese, Russians and the rest of us...,
JosephaH
INFOWAR: Wiggling into temporary organisms, Ebon Fisher
INFOWAR: information is shit, Grayson Cooke
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RE: INFOWAR: information is shit, Ramsey, Shafer
RE: INFOWAR: information is shit, andreas hagenbach
RE: INFOWAR: information is shit, Grayson Cooke
Re: INFOWAR: information is shit, J. R. Molloy
INFOWAR: Re: Wiggling into temporary organisms, Douglas Rushkoff
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INFOWAR: Re: Wiggling into temporary organisms, 7Pillars
Partners
Re: INFOWAR: Re: Wiggling into temporary organisms, JosephaH
Re: INFOWAR: Re: Wiggling into temporary organisms, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Re: Wiggling into temporary organisms, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Re: information is shit, Douglas Rushkoff
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INFOWAR: Re: information is shit, Victoria Vesna
INFOWAR: Re: information is shit, J. R. Molloy
INFOWAR: Re: Wiggling into Temporary Organisms, Ebon Fisher
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INFOWAR: Re: Wiggling into Temporary Organisms, Victoria Vesna
INFOWAR: Re: Infowar seen by the Chinese, Russians and the rest of
us..., Charles Sabourin
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INFOWAR: Re: Infowar seen by the Chinese, Russians and the rest
of us..., J. R. Molloy
INFOWAR: Re: your mail, Victoria Vesna
INFOWAR: MAN, Victoria Vesna
INFOWAR: junk information everywhere!, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Re: information is often shit, JosephaH
INFOWAR: embrace our interconnection with the world, JosephaH
INFOWAR: Re: INFO WAR = INFO NERVES ?, J. R. Molloy
INFOWAR: MAY 10 ZAPATISTA ECD: FLOOD THE WHITE HOUSE WEB SITE!,
ricardo dominguez
INFOWAR: info as difference, war is simulation, or something very
different???, Stefan Weber
INFOWAR: Re: More on the AntiWar Campaign, Vesna Manojlovic
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INFOWAR: Re: More on the AntiWar Campaign, Vesna Manojlovic
RE: INFOWAR: Re: More on the AntiWar Campaign, Kildsig
INFOWAR: Northern Irelands infowar, Leuna
INFOWAR: disrupting, Frederic Madre
INFOWAR: Re: embrace our interconnection with the world, insolit
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INFOWAR: Re: embrace our interconnection with the world, insolit
INFOWAR: RE: information is shit, Ramsey, Shafer
INFOWAR: how to measure it?, Kildsig
Re: INFOWAR: Re: information vs. shit, JosephaH
INFOWAR: info or knowledge, JosephaH
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INFOWAR: info or knowledge, JosephaH
INFOWAR: information., -j.
INFOWAR: we are shit (and playing in it), Abe Golam
INFOWAR: ethnic discrimination is everywhere?, JosephaH
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RE: INFOWAR: ethnic discrimination is everywhere?, Kildsig
INFOWAR: Re: what happened, why?, JosephaH
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RE: INFOWAR: Re: what happened, why?, -j
INFOWAR: information and art, JosephaH
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Re: INFOWAR: information and art, Tina LaPorta
RE: INFOWAR: information and art, -j.
Re: INFOWAR: information and art, valery grancher
RE: INFOWAR: information and art, Kildsig
INFOWAR: Anyone with practical experiences?, Hans Mittendorf-Labiche
INFOWAR: URLs for the May 10 White House Flood Net action are now active, ricardo dominguez
INFOWAR: InfoWar. Erste und letzte Privatmeinung, David Hauptmann
INFOWAR: 3 responses, infowar
INFOWAR: Information Weapon Contest, infowar
INFOWAR: SWARM: An InfoWar Project for ARS Electronica, ricardo
dominguez
INFOWAR: IWC and 3 respnses, infowar
INFOWAR: infowar 3, Dr. Birgit Richard
INFOWAR: Mercenaries and Infowar, infowar
INFOWAR: Internet Censorship strikes NGOs, Andrew Garton
INFOWAR: RE: information and art, d m c
INFOWAR: microsoft nuclear test, infowar
INFOWAR: what forms of resistance against corporate, owner-infowar-en
INFOWAR: spy meeting, infowar
INFOWAR: keyword: information superiority, infowar
INFOWAR: A package, infowar
INFOWAR: Info Noise in Belgrade - part 1, shirt
INFOWAR: Constructing Democracies in Digital Territories, fduarte
INFOWAR: PRESS RELEASE(98)80 - STATEMENT BY NATO SECRETARY GENERAL ON
EXERCISE "DETERMINED FALCON",
Georg Schoefbaenker
INFOWAR: ARRC Press Release: NATO's rapid reaction corps to test
global = communications, Georg Schoefbaenker
INFOWAR: Electronic Pearl Harbour and Reply, infowar
INFOWAR: PRIVACY FOR OPEN MARKETS - Press Release, Andreas Broeckmann
INFOWAR: *l'argent est le nerf de la guerre*, jens-ingo brodesser
INFOWAR: UNTERBRECHUNG DER INFORMATION IM UND ALS KRIEG:
ARDENNENOFFENSIVE, ernst
INFOWAR: Back to the happy mileneum of Shi-Huang-Ti, Chinese emperor ordering
the burning of books in order to set up a new
dynasty, Tjebbe van Tijen
INFOWAR: InfoNoise in Belgrade - part 3, shirt
INFOWAR: Name.space vs. NSI/NSF / Computer arrest at Islands in the
Net, infowar
INFOWAR: News on Information Warfare, Victoria Vesna
INFOWAR: US Russian Relations. A New Cold War?, Georg Schoefbaenker
INFOWAR: wearcomp, steve mann
THE SELECTION From: Jim Gasperini jimg@well.com
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:18:45 -0400:
It's hard to imagine the self-absorption that could allow someone to sit in Linz, Austria, a few hundred kilometres from a society recently destroyed by real War, and write such rubbish. To address one of the more coherent statements in a document remarkable for its profusion of absurdities:
Whereas, in the past, war was concerned with the conquering of territory, and later with the control of production capacities, war in the 21st century is entirely concerned with the acquisition and exercise of power over knowledge.
Tell that to the Bosnians, the Serbs, the Croatians, the Albanians. Tell it to the Rwandans, the Burundians, the Azerbaijanis, the Sri Lankans, the Iraqis, the Koreans, the Sierra Leonians, the Liberians, the Somalis, the Timorians. Tell it to those maimed by recent wars in Cambodia, Vietnam, El Salvador, Guatemala, and those still to be maimed by the millions of land mines still awaiting in the fields where they have no choice but to work.
From: Matthew Ostrowski mattyo@koncon.nl
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 22:04:20 -0400:
"What I find most interesting about the infowar premise is that the idea (and I believe the term 'infowar' itself) is a product of the Pentagon, which, in their scrambling for funding in the post cold-war era, found a whole new missle gap, the mythology of which has in turn been absorbed by such 'countercultural' institutions as Ars Electronica..."
From: antiorp@tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:04:03 -0600:
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From: Steve Mann mann@eecg.toronto.edu
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 00:08:46 -0400 (EDT):
Increasingly we are witnessing the emergence of
“intelligent highways'', “smart rooms'', “smart floors'', “smart ceilings'', “smart toilets'', “smart elevators'', “smart lightswitches'', etc.. However, a typical attribute of these “smart spaces'' is that they were architected by someone other than the occupant. Thus the end--user of the space often does not have a full disclosure of the operational characteristics of the sensory apparatus and the flow of intelligence data from the sensory apparatus. What is proposed is a computational framework for individual personal empowerment. This framework involves the architecting of a new kind of personal space, through an apparatus that is owned, operated, and controlled by the occupant of that space. In some sense, it is like a building, built for one occupant, and collapsed down around that one occupant.
While there will no doubt be more environmental intelligence than personal intelligence, there is at least the hope that there might be an end to the drastic imbalance between personal intelligence and environmental intelligence. The individual making a purchase in a department store may have several cameras pointing at him to make sure that if he removed merchandise without payment that there would be evidence that he did not pay for the item. However, in the future, he will have a means of collecting evidence that he did pay for the item, or a recorded statement of a clerk about the refund policy.
From: simon@babar.demon.co.uk (Simon Biggs)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:43:47 +0000:
I think what is most interesting here is not so much the use of this technology in war (it would be a surprise if the technology had not been developed and used for this purpose) but rather how the technology shifts its use and value in the post-Cold War scenario. After all, it was the Cold war that led to its development, but now we find that although that particular event is over the technology develops just as rapidly, even though there is no equivalently determined enemy or threat. I am not sure that InfoWar is a great name for what we are to talk about on this list.
It is a very emotive term, and the use of this type of technology (and the ideas that underly it) these days are less to do with "normal" ideas of war and much more to do with ideas of commerce (not that these things are necessarily very different or mutually exclusive).
From: zina@world.net (Zina Kaye)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:35:10 +1000:
As citizens of this time we seem to be dealing with two kinds to infowars. On one hand, the conventional military/boundary war. On the other, inter-corporate war which invokes national boundaries conveniently as a tactic.
"Buyer and seller" seems to be the most useful paradigm, even over "profit and loss", making it easier. for example, for military observers to keep a check on what is going on, as the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (www.sipri.se) proves. At least with buyer and seller we all know which box to check. And from the former binary the latter may be extrapolated. What kinds of buying stabilise what kind of relationship, or harm what other opportunity. The SIPRI web site is interesting in its treatment of economics, publishing reports that discuss financial concerns and a military budget's effect on a nation's future.
From: melinda rackham melinda@subtle.net
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:26:16 +1000:
"Infowar" initially evoked in me the "militarized heirarchical detached theory unrelenting linear purecode, get me outa here" response, but of course i've become completely desensitised to the term in a few short weeks. however im still rather reticent to engage in an arena defined as combat. must i attack or defend positions? what personal borders do i pat/con/trol? am i a subversive agent?, or am i a casualty? do i occupy multiple sites simultaneously? can i casually observe outside the kill zone?
From: infowar@aec.at
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:16:34 -0700 (PDT):
REDMOND (BNN)--World leaders reacted with stunned silence as Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) conducted an underground nuclear test at a secret facility in eastern Washington state. The device, exploded at 9:22 am PDT (1622 GMT/12:22 pm EDT) today, was timed to coincide with talks between Microsoft and the US Department of Justice over possible antitrust action.
In Washington, President Clinton announced the US Government would boycott all Microsoft products indefinitely. Minutes later, the President reversed his decision. "We've tried sanctions since lunchtime, and they don't work," said the President. Instead, the administration will initiate a policy of "constructive engagement" with Microsoft.
Microsoft's Chief Technology Officer Nathan Myrhvold said the test justified Microsoft's recent acquisition of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation from the US Government. Not only did Microsoft acquire "kilograms of weapons grade plutonium" in the deal, said Myrhvold, "but we've finally found a place to dump those millions of unsold copies of Microsoft Bob." Myrhvold warned users not to replace Microsoft NT products with rival operating systems. "I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of a radioisotope thermoelectric generator inside of every Pentium II microprocessor," said Myrhvold, "but anyone who installs an OS written by a bunch of long-hairs on the Internet is going to get what they deserve."
From: infowar@aec.at
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:33:42 +0200 (MET DST):
McLEAN, Virginia -- In the latest Pentagon alarm about the potential of cyberterrorism, a senior US Defense Department official told an industry-military forum today that teenage crackers pose a "real threat environment" to national security. Speaking to the Defense Modeling and Simulation Office Industry Days conference, Jacques Gansler, undersecretary of defense for acquisition and technology, said that in addition to using advanced computerized modeling and simulation techniques to help train pilots and tank drivers, and design and build warplanes and submarines, Pentagon war fighters must be able to fight information wars to achieve, as he put it, "total information superiority" for the United States.
Subject: INFOWAR: Back to the happy mileneum of Shi-Huang-Ti, Chinese
emperor ordering the burning of books in order to set up a new dynasty....
From: Tjebbe van Tijen tijen@inter.nl.net
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:53:20 +0200
Television Banned in Afghanistan
The Taliban government outlaws possession of TV sets Updated: Jul 9 1998 12:32PM The revolution will not be televised -- at least not in Afghanistan. The Taliban government today banned TV, and gave Afghans 15 days to get rid of all sets and VCRs. After that, if the organization's enforcers find one in your house, it will be destroyed and you will be punished. (And in a country where women are beaten in the street if their bodies are not covered from head to toe, tuning in for your regular satellite dose of "Baywatch" may not be worth the pain.) Of course there hasn't been anything good on Afghan TV for some time -- the Taliban closed down the country's only TV station in 1996, for fear that the medium would corrupt society. So if you're looking for the remote in an Afghan household, you're unlikely to find it in the couch cushions -- try digging up the back yard. -- Tony Karon
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