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Re: LIFESCIENCE: Re: A Reactionary Reaction

 
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ARS ELECTRONICA FESTIVAL 99
LIFESCIENCE
Linz, Austria, September 04 - 09
http://www.aec.at/lifescience
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hi trevor,

Trevor schrieb:

> If the "Media is the Message" (and I certainly believe it plays an
> important part) then the precise nature of the medium is important if we
> are to understand how it "mediates" in society.
>

that is absolutely correct but it is still not clear why the computer that is a
medium that is the message too and depends on certain structures, destroys the
medium,
it is a dematerialisation okay, i commit that but the computer is one of the
strongest medias that infiltrates structures of society.
so what you mean is dematerialisation that leads to an output with material
substance, which is a very important point for lifescience too because you are
changing an abstract structure a plan and out comes a living thing you constructed
on the paper or in the computer

> Users only see the "User Interface" and always operate within the world
> which is being simulated for them. It is a "conceptual" world and not a
> "material" world.
>

d4accord again

> >>           Post Modernism       has   destroyed      Value and Meaning
>
> >> this sounds very conservative
>
> I cannot deny it.
>
> Post Modernism may be "morally" correct in equalising all value systems
> (relativism) but it is "methodologically" wrong -because it prevents us from
> looking to see how "meaning" changes in different contexts (relativity).

but this is a very tiny view into the universe of postmodern thought, there are
other positions that are very keen on looking on the different relationships
between all the differentiated groups. also very moral theories about justice and
values (latest writing of derrida).

>
> >a very thrilling and dangerous at one time. mass murderers and serial killers
> >war
> >criminals they totally lost the connection to human reality and are let by
> >ideological and psychological principles that makes them forget to think
> about
> >the
> >consequences. the same with the geneticist working in his laboratory doing
> his
> >science job without considering what military or commercial consequences this
> >might be producing.
>
> But what is "human reality" if ALL reality(*) is "virtual"?
> Is "human reality" different to "non-human reality"?
>

yes sure it is, due to the theory of constructivism every human perception creates
a different view of the world and maybe every animal has its own view that we are
not able to reconstruct.

> >teenage violence has other implications, they are partly an expression of
> >their
> >bodily state of transfer between, they do not have a pychological or
> >ideological
> >master plan to fullfill.
>
> So it looks as if mass murderers and serial killers may cause problems
> BECAUSE they have a master plan
> AND teenagers cause problems because they do NOT have one!
>

i don4t not think so about the serial killers i read a lot about them doing work
for my phd boo,k about images of death in art subculture and media, serial killers
masterplan is not worked out by them thoughtfully, it is how they do their bloody
work this is very rationalized

>

greetings to all on the list
birgit richard
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