Re: LIFESCIENCE: poor vision

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In einer eMail vom 20.07.99 00:36:06 MEZ, schreiben Sie:

<< Thema:	 re: LIFESCIENCE: poor vision
 Datum:	20.07.99 00:36:06 MEZ
 From:	Lubica=Lacinova%IPT%MRI@vines.ipt.med.tu-muenchen.de
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 I am afraid this would somehow miss the point. 

that was fully intentional.

Perhaps you know  that Dolly was one successful clone out of almost 300 
"starting oocytes".  Everyone who has slightest idea about this technology 
would know that you   just could not clone more than 3-5 sheeps at a time.
 
- this was only an experiment of thought, who would know except you and other 
experts how much clones you are actually able to produce?

I am afraid it damages  the cause - happening with sheeps could be very 
easily laughed out. And it  would add an argument in favor of cloning: "see, 
no serious arguments could 
 be raised, just childish games".
 
- so this is your point of view if this would be an experimental action there 
would be further imformations about this performance that would be able to 
raise a bunch of important questions.

 Further, time to discuss cloned sheep is over.

-sorry i am always a bit out of time.

 Last year mice were  successfully cloned and to do that, scientist overcome 
constraints which were 
 necessary to overcome if human should be cloned (sheep technology
 was not good enough to clone humans) - no public discussion about that.
 
- okay then let s do it with a herd (is that the right expression?) of mice

 By the way, importance of Dolly was in a fact that it was a clone
 of adult animal - embryonal cloning is well known and well established
 technique for a while. Nevertheless, clones of adult animals are aging 
 somehow too fast or die unexpectedly making the technique vulnerable and 
 unreliable.

we know about dollys turbo aging process
 
 Still, in my view, cloned sheep is not problem which needs to be
 addressed right now. What need to be addressed, is the role of human and
 its position within nature. 

this is far to general, you need everyday examples to start the discussion

The whole project of speeding up evolution by
 means of creating new species may be really dangerous - including transgenic 
 art.
 
maybe but perhaps only the dangerous looking things become interesting, think 
of stelarc third ear project, he will not be allowed to do it.
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