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--------------------------------------------------------- ARS ELECTRONICA FESTIVAL 99 LIFESCIENCE Linz, Austria, September 04 - 09 http://www.aec.at/lifescience --------------------------------------------------------- PROFRICHAR@aol.com wrote: > > But beyond all these examples, they have > more or less remained (marginalized?) w/in "art", despite all their > emphasis on technique, artist-as-craftsman, engineering, etc. > > so why is that do you have an explanation for that eugene? > i am asking seriously because i do not have an answer instantly hi birgit - yes this is a persistent problem w/ in so-called art communities & their audiences, & certainly wouldn't want to pretent to have an answer here - only that it's a very old (some would say tired) problem w/in the historical "avant-gardes" (e.g., Futurism, Dada, Surrealism, Constructivism, etc. etc.) - the problem of "recuperation" inherent in the rhetorical and political stance of an "avant-garde" movement. Paul Mann calls this the "theory-death" of the avant-garde - the point at which even the very "death" or incorporation of the avant-garde into mainstream culture becomes a cultural commodity, or is abstracted from its political context (e.g., the very complicated politics of Italian Futurism appropriated & abstracted in Wired, or in trendy histories of early electronic music). but aside from this, i would propose that, while all the discussion on this list concerning the negoiations between "art" and "science" (or the non-difference between the two), what's also at stake is the ways in which any activity - whether it is called (by habit, due to historical contingency, due to cultural hegenomies) art or science - is always embedded in a multitude of qualitatively different relationships. this is not just "context" (e.g., that the way a particular activity is enframed determines how it will be received - which assumes that all you have to do is do "art" in the context of "science" & there you have it). instead it is a question of how networks of relationships actually constitute, formulate, even materialize particular practices. thus the question is not, "why is this activity called 'science'?" nor is it "why is this activity being reduced to 'science'?" maybe the question is instead "what are the conditions and relationships that are set up so that a particular activity (e.g., stem cell research, transgenic art, multimedia performance, online symposium) can possibly arise in a particular way? what are some practical responses here? i don't know, although the exploration into intermediary categories or "hybrids" seems promising - producing zones of activity whose primary force is to confound and perturb the solidification of categorical habit (e.g., mixing web programming, AI concepts, "metadesign"). also modes of appropriation, simulation seem promising - not as nihilistic celebrations of no meaning, but as ways of critique from the inside (e.g., post-media performance, electronic disturbance)... eugene -- ]]]] bioinformatic bodies ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]]]]]]]]] http://gsa.rutgers.edu/maldoror/index.html ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]] ftp_formless_anatomy ]]]]]]]] http://www.formless.org ]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]]]]]]]]]] maldoror@eden.rutgers.edu ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]]]]]]] Fake_Life Platform ]]]] http://web.t0.or.at/fakeshop/fake_life.html ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] _ ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to the English language version of LIFESCIENCE To unsubscribe the English language version send mail to lifescience-en-request@aec.at (message text 'unsubscribe') Send contributions to lifescience@aec.at --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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