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--------------------------------------------------------- ARS ELECTRONICA FESTIVAL 99 LIFESCIENCE Linz, Austria, September 04 - 09 http://www.aec.at/lifescience --------------------------------------------------------- On Sunday, August 8, 1999 at 10:39:35 pm MEZ, PROFRICHAR@aol.com wrote: >as it common practise these reproductive technologies will be in the hand of >mostly male geneticists or doctors that that will decide whether kindly to >donnate anything to a pleading woman. Clinical genetics is dominated by males and they do like to exert control. Nevertheless, for me is more important question if women should really accept "industrialization" of formerly natural reproduction. Not that long time ago cesarean section was exceptional procedure. Now, 25% of all births in USA are done that way. The question is, did general health status of women deteriorated so rapidly (if so, how comes that there is no furor about it ?!?) or it is just extension of the obsession of our society with modern technology and control? If the second is the case (and I am afraid it is), than I can imagine that the percentage of children which were not conceived naturally will increase much more rapidly that the number of sterile men and/or women. The point is not to increase accessibility of "alternative conception methods", the point is to reject their use in cases when they are not a necessity. >so woman will be mostly not able to >know about all the possiblities of genetics and reproductive technologies, >especially if they have little money (in germany they cutting down the rates >for consultations with special machines, if you have normal insurance you >have to pay extra money to make ultrasonic images of the fetus) I can not see the direct connection between lack of money and lack of informations, particularly in Germany. You have quite good network of public libraries, most of the households have TV. As far as the informations about reproductive technologies will be publicly available, women can find them. And your current red/green government wants to have as a focus point of sexual education explanations about reproductive technologies (in contrast to previous black government with focus point on anti-abortion propaganda). Nevertheless, stress should go in direction to explain, that these technologies are not superior to -- so to say -- natural reproduction. I do not think that technological control of every aspect of our life will make a great contribution towards humanity. So I would prefer to explore if all modern reproductive technologies are desirable (do they give us more than they take from us?) rather than to strive to make them as common as possible. >the cases of a doctor in rome allowing a 63 year old woman to give birth to >until now two sons was a scandal the critique was how irresponsible this >woman is to give birth at that age because she will die soon. >what about all old man being father in senior age. This is indeed normal and >accepted by society. Yes, you are right: society expect mother to take care of child, father's obligations are much less binding. Question is, which part of this situation deserves more attentions: should we request less from mothers or should we require more from fathers? My preference is the second one. Luba Lacinova e-dress lacinova@ipt.med.tu-muenchen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to the English language version of LIFESCIENCE To unsubscribe the English language version send mail to lifescience-en-request@aec.at (message text 'unsubscribe') Send contributions to lifescience@aec.at --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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