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--------------------------------------------------------- ARS ELECTRONICA FESTIVAL 99 LIFESCIENCE Linz, Austria, September 04 - 09 http://www.aec.at/lifescience --------------------------------------------------------- dear lubica lacinova, Clinical genetics is dominated by males and they do like to exert control. > Nevertheless, for me is more important question if women should really accept > "industrialization" of formerly natural reproduction. you are absolutely right i am probably not so well informed about alternative possibilities for women to plan these issues autonomously > Not that long time ago > cesarean section was exceptional procedure. Now, 25% of all births in USA are > done that way. The question is, did general health status of women > deteriorated so rapidly (if so, how comes that there is no furor > about it ?!?) or it is just extension of the obsession of our society with > modern technology and control? yes i also read about that and i asked myself what is natural and what are the technical implication forced upon women birth in a clinical e.g. the lying position is already not natural and not comfortable for women. > men and/or women. The point is not to increase accessibility of "alternative > conception methods", the point is to reject their use in cases when they are > not a necessity. > i must confess that i am not able to judge what is a medical necessity and what is not. i would be always like to the whole topic of life science dependend on informations of other people of experts. i am only able to choose my source of information. > > >so woman will be mostly not able to > >know about all the possiblities of genetics and reproductive technologies, > >especially if they have little money (in germany they cutting down the rates > >for consultations with special machines, if you have normal insurance you > >have to pay extra money to make ultrasonic images of the fetus) > > I can not see the direct connection between lack of money and lack of > informations, particularly in Germany. You have quite good network of public > libraries, most of the households have TV. yes but tv is not a neutral medium > As far as the informations about > reproductive technologies will be publicly available, women can find them. okay i agree with that but what if you read about the suitable methods for you and do not find anyone to realize it for you? > Nevertheless, stress should go in direction to explain, that these > technologies are not superior to -- so to say -- natural reproduction. that is a very important point the possibilty to choose > > >the cases of a doctor in rome allowing a 63 year old woman to give birth to > >until now two sons was a scandal the critique was how irresponsible this > >woman is to give birth at that age because she will die soon. > >what about all old man being father in senior age. This is indeed normal and > >accepted by society. > > Yes, you are right: society expect mother to take care of child, father's > obligations are much less binding. Question is, which part of this situation > deserves more attentions: should we request less from mothers or should we > require more from fathers? My preference is the second one. > mine too sorry for my broken english, difficult work to concentrate on today, not very good today in making english sentences regards birgit don4t forget the total eclipse today --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to the English language version of LIFESCIENCE To unsubscribe the English language version send mail to lifescience-en-request@aec.at (message text 'unsubscribe') Send contributions to lifescience@aec.at --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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